. In most states, this license allows the driver to operate any vehicle with a semi-trailer or trailer with two or more axles. This also includes any combination of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) greater than 26,000 pounds (provided that the GVWR of the towed vehicle is in excess of 10,000 pounds) under the following conditions. Prepare for the written tests. For drivers towing trailers with more than 10,000 pounds of GVWR. Allows the holder to operate Class B and C vehicles. Drivers may be able to operate tractor-trailers, truck and trailer combinations, double and triple trailers, tractor-trailer buses, tanker vehicles, livestock carriers, and flatbeds.
Common careers for holders include heavy truck drivers, dispatchers, local drivers, couriers, and bus drivers. You must possess appropriate endorsements based upon the loads you carry. This license allows the driver to operate any vehicle with a GVWR greater than 26,000 pounds, as well as any vehicle towing a trailer that does not exceed a GVWR of 10,000 pounds under the following conditions.
Prepare for the written tests. For drivers towing trailers with less than 10,000 pounds of GVWR. Holder can operate Class C vehicles, but not Class A vehicles. Drivers may be able to operate straight trucks, box trucks (like delivery trucks), large buses (such as school buses and city buses, and tourist buses), and dump trucks with small trailers. You must possess appropriate endorsements based upon the loads you carry. This license is for vehicles that do not exceed 26,000 pounds and otherwise do not require a CDL except when you need a CDL to attach an endorsement to under the following conditions. Prepare for the written tests.
Prepare for the written tests. Prepare for the written tests. A vehicle designed to carry 16 or more passengers (including the driver). You must also possess the Passenger Vehicles Endorsement.
Usually required for school buses even when carrying fewer than 16 passengers (including the driver). If driving a school bus, you would also need a Passengers Vehicles (P) and School Bus (P) Edorsement.
When carrying Hazardous Materials requiring placarding. You would also need the Hazardous Materials Endorsement (H). When driving a vehicle with a tank exceeding 1000 gallons (but GVWR does not exceed 26,000 pounds). You would also need a Tank Vehicle (T) Endorsement. T - (Knowledge test only). Prepare for the CDL written tests.
P - (Knowledge and Skills Tests). Prepare for the CDL written tests.
N - (Knowledge test only). Prepare for the CDL written tests. H - (Knowledge test only).
Prepare for the CDL written tests. X - Combination of tank vehicle and hazardous materials endorsements (Knowledge test only). Prepare for the CDL written tests.
S - (Knowledge and Skills Tests). Prepare for the CDL written tests. W - Tow truck.
(Written Test) in New York State T, P, S, N, H and X are Federal endorsements. Any other endorsements have been promulgated at the State level. New York DMV requires a 'W' endorsement to legally operate a tow truck in New York. States may have a more restrictive category for a class of license, or have additional codes for endorsements or restrictions on CDLs that are not mentioned in the Federal regulations, as long as these items are fully explained on the license document. Check your specific for details. P -: A California CLP holder with a 'P' endorsement is prohibited from operating a CMV carrying passengers, other than Federal/state auditors and inspectors, test examiners, other trainees, and the CDL holder accompanying the California CLP holder as prescribed by 49CFR383.25(a)(1).
S -: A California CLP holder with an 'S' endorsement is prohibited from operating a school with passengers, other than Federal/state auditors and inspectors, test examiners, other trainees, and the CDL holder accompanying the California CLP holder as prescribed by 49CFR383.25(a)(1). N -: A California CLP holder with an 'N' endorsement may only operate an empty tank vehicle, and is prohibited from operating any tank vehicle that previously contained hazardous materials that have not been purged of any residue. L - If the driver does not pass the Air Brakes Knowledge Test, does not correctly identify the air brake system components, does not properly conduct an air brake systems check, or does not take the Skills test in a vehicle with a full air brake system, the driver must have an 'L' no full air brake restriction placed on their license. Z - If the driver takes the test in a vehicle with an air over hydraulic brake system, then they will have a 'Z' no full air brake restriction placed on their license.
In either case the driver is not authorized to operate a CMV equipped with full air brakes. E - If the driver takes the Skills Test in a vehicle that has an automatic transmission, then an 'E' no manual transmission restriction is placed on their license.
O - If the driver takes the Skills Test in a Class A vehicle that has a pintle hook or other non-fifth wheel connection, they will have an 'O' restriction placed on their license restricting them from driving any Class A vehicle with a fifth wheel connection. M - If a driver possesses a Class A CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class B vehicle the State must place an 'M' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class B and C passenger vehicle or school buses.
N - If a driver possesses a Class B CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class C vehicle; the State must place an 'N' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class C passenger vehicle or school buses. V - If the State is notified by the FMCSA that a medical variance has been issued to the driver, the State must indicate the existence of such a medical variance on the CDLIS driving record and the CDL document using a restriction code 'V' to indicate that there is information about the medical variance on the CDLIS record. 3 - If the driver does not pass the Air Brakes Knowledge Test, does not correctly identify the air brake system components, does not properly conduct an air brake systems check, or does not take the Skills test in a vehicle with a full air brake system, the driver must have an 'L' no full air brake restriction placed on their license. B - If the driver takes the test in a vehicle with an air over hydraulic brake system, then they will have a 'Z' no full air brake restriction placed on their license. In either case the driver is not authorized to operate a CMV equipped with full air brakes.
C - If the driver takes the Skills Test in a vehicle that has an automatic transmission, then an 'E' no manual transmission restriction is placed on their license. D - If the driver takes the Skills Test in a Class A vehicle that has a pintle hook or other non-fifth wheel connection, they will have an 'O' restriction placed on their license restricting them from driving any Class A vehicle with a fifth wheel connection. F - If a driver possesses a Class A CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class B vehicle the State must place an 'M' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class B and C passenger vehicle or school buses. G - If a driver possesses a Class B CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class C vehicle; the State must place an 'N' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class C passenger vehicle or school buses. K - If the State is notified by the FMCSA that a medical variance has been issued to the driver, the State must indicate the existence of such a medical variance on the CDLIS driving record and the CDL document using a restriction code 'V' to indicate that there is information about the medical variance on the CDLIS record.
O - If the driver takes the test in a vehicle with an air over hydraulic brake system, then they will have a 'Z' no full air brake restriction placed on their license. In either case the driver is not authorized to operate a CMV equipped with full air brakes. P - If the driver takes the Skills Test in a vehicle that has an automatic transmission, then an 'E' no manual transmission restriction is placed on their license.
U - If the driver takes the Skills Test in a Class A vehicle that has a pintle hook or other non-fifth wheel connection, they will have an 'O' restriction placed on their license restricting them from driving any Class A vehicle with a fifth wheel connection. V - If a driver possesses a Class A CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class B vehicle the State must place an 'M' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class B and C passenger vehicle or school buses. W - If a driver possesses a Class B CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class C vehicle; the State must place an 'N' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class C passenger vehicle or school buses.
X - If the State is notified by the FMCSA that a medical variance has been issued to the driver, the State must indicate the existence of such a medical variance on the CDLIS driving record and the CDL document using a restriction code 'V' to indicate that there is information about the medical variance on the CDLIS record. Z - If the State is notified by the FMCSA that a medical variance has been issued to the driver, the State must indicate the existence of such a medical variance on the CDLIS driving record and the CDL document using a restriction code 'V' to indicate that there is information about the medical variance on the CDLIS record. Are YOU ready to get YOUR California CDL?
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California Drivers License Restrictions Depending on the type of a drivers license that you currently hold, certain California drivers license restrictions may apply to it. This particularly concerns drivers under the age of 18 who must observe all California provisional driver's license restrictions for at least 12 months or until they reach the age of 18, whatever comes first. Apart from provisional license restrictions, other California driver license restrictions may limit your ability to operate a vehicle under certain conditions. For example, a very common type of a restriction is a bioptic lens restriction that requires you to wear glasses or contact lenses while driving. California Drivers License Restriction Codes Unfortunately, we were unable to locate a list of the California driver's license restriction codes, so if you are trying to find what a specific code means, you should turn to the California Department of Motor Vehicle and they will decipher the code for you. The most common restrictions that are placed on are the bioptic lens and daytime driving only. These are placed onto your drivers license if you fail the vision exam at the DMV during your.
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In order to pass the vision exam, you must have visual acuity better than 20/200 in at least one eye without the use of a bioptic telescopic lens or similar bioptic device. California Provisional Drivers License Restrictions Provisional license restrictions are part of the program and it's just a small portion of the measures that were devised to keep teen drivers safe during their first years of driving. Most teenagers are under the impression that once they pass the, they get a full driver's license and can do whatever they want on the road. This is not exactly true, the drivers license that is issued to drivers under age of 18 is marked as a provisional drivers license and it comes with the following restrictions:. Curfew. No driving between 11 p.m. Passenger restrictions.
You cannot transport any passengers under the age of 20. These driver's license restrictions do not apply if you have a parent/legal guardian present in the vehicle. Note how these license restrictions are different from the that you had to observe while driving under the. The main difference is that while operating under a learner's permit, you are not allowed any unsupervised driving whatsoever, while California provisional license restrictions merely limits your ability to drive alone to when it's safe to do so. Exceptions to California Provisional License Restrictions In certain situations, the need to travel is greater than the danger this traveling may cause and the DMV recognizes this fact. That's why you are allowed to break the provisional license restrictions, provided the following conditions are met:.
Medical necessity when reasonable transportation facilities are inadequate. You must carry a signed statement from your doctor stating the diagnosis and the probable date the necessity will end. Schooling or school-authorized activities when reasonable transportation facilities are inadequate.
You must carry a statement signed by the school principal, dean or a staff person authorized by the principal or dean, indicating when the schooling or school-authorized activity will be completed. Necessity of family member including yourself, when adequate transportation facilities are unavailable and you need personal transportation or to transport a family member. You must carry a signed statement by a parent/legal guardian verifying the reason you must drive and the probable date the necessity will end. Emancipated minor If you have filed documents with DMV to show you are emancipated and have filed either an SR-1P or SR 22 as required by law, you are not held to the provisional driving restrictions.
It may be a good idea to carry proof of your emancipated status with you. In all other cases, you must observe your are all times. Restrictions will be automatically lifted in 12 months or when you turn 18, whichever comes first. You do not need to exchange your drivers license at that point.
Well I discovered something very interesting today and thought I would share. First a little foundation so this makes since. I am a long time RVer and like to take 3 day to 14 day trips with the family. This month I traded our 32' Cougar for a Cyclone 300C ti so we could haul the Harley and have real beds for the kids. We have taken it on 1 trip so far over the 4th of July and we loooove the rig. We have 2 more trips coming up the first 2 weekends of August.
Now with that info. I am a Lieutenant with a Sheriff's Office in Northern Ca and have worked here for 25 years. I like to think I am proficient on the laws regarding driver's licenses.
So I am updating the policy for our Mobile Command Vehicle, a Renegade Command build on a Freightliner frame. 32 feet long, air brakes and GVWR of 33,000 lbs. When it was built 5 years ago, they included a small kitchen and a very small bathroom so it could be classified as a motorcoach so only a class C licence would be needed to drive it.
The rest of the rig is all business and has no resemblance to an RV. In short, while at the local DMV researching what license is actually required (Per DMV and Valley Division CHP Commercial Unit, Class B Commercial is required based on the GVWR) I discovered that any 5th wheel trailer with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs to 15,000 lbs requires a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement and anything with a GVWR over 15,000 lbs requires a class A non-commercial license. They advised that until recently CHP nor DMV have been putting much effort into enforcing this. Working for a Sheriff's Office, we do enforce the basic traffic laws but the more detailed issues such as this are seldom dealt with. So what a shocker, I have been driving without the right endorsement for years when I had the Cougar behind me and now when pulling my new rig, I am driving out of class, a big no no.
To be legal I have to do the following (cut and pasted from DMV website): Complete an application for a driver license (DL 44). Pay the application fee. Submit a Health Questionnaire (DL 546) dated not more than two years prior to the date of your application. Pass the basic Class C law test, unless you renewed your Class C license within the past 12 months. Pass the Recreational Vehicles and Noncommercial Class A Trailers law test. Pass a vision test. Pass a pre-trip inspection test.
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Pass the skills test. Pass a driving test while towing the type of vehicle you wish to be licensed for. I was able to stay and submit the application, take (and pass) the Class C, Class A Non Commercial, and Motorcycle tests (still not sure why I had to retake the M1 again), fill out the medical questionnaire (at least I didn't need a physical), take the vision test, and take a new picture. Now I feel like a 15 year old again as I have a permit that requires me to have a Class A licensed driver in the passenger seat if I pull the trailer.
I was able to pull some strings for the pre-trip inspection and can go for the skills test and driving test any morning without an appointment, which never happens at a California DMV. My plan is to do this on Monday morning. The trick is I need a passenger with a Class A to go with me. Hopefully all goes well.I will update. Obviously there are more consequences (career wise) for me than the average Joe for driving out of class such as a ticket, park the ride, or even have it towed if you encounter an officer having a bad day.
God help you if you are the cause of an accident. From what I have read, many in the forums choose to drive overweight but I haven't seen any posts regarding the license class requirements even though almost all the posts talk about weights considerably over 10,000 lbs GVWR and 15,000 GVWR but I have yet to dig through all the posts. I know some states are less restrictive than CA. We will be driving to Texas in December so I guess I'll have some more researching to do. Anyone know the rule/laws for Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas?
I am a retired Deputy Sheriff in MO. It's always been my understanding that under the reciprocity agreements the states have, if you are legal to drive in your state of residence, you are legal in all states. Kind of like in MO if your truck is licensed over 18,000 lbs, you are only issued 1 license plate, and it must be on the front of the vehicle. I only have 1 license plate on my truck as I'm licensed over 18,000 lbs. I'm legal to drive like that in all 50 states. I've heard that some people have had some issues with that when driving out of state, but I haven't had any.yet. You need to follow the laws of the state you are traveling in, for instance a few years ago you where required to wear seat belts I'm New York State but some neighboring states did not have a seat belt law, if you didn't wear a seat belt you received a ticket, same with texting whike driving.
You need to be aware of the laws of the state your traveling in, no matter what your state or country laws are, the state or providence laws are to be obeyed! As far as registrations go you need to obey your state laws for registration, however all states and providences will agree on enforcement of GVWR and you should be knowledgeable in your vehicles weights and ratings! Example, if you license your one ton daully for 7, 000 lbs and a three axle toyhauler for 10, 900 ( 17, 900 gross registration to stay under 18, 000 ) but your truck really has a 13, 000 GVRW and your camper has a 18, 000 GVWR ( 31, 000 ) You had better follow the laws and regulations for 31, 000 lbs if not you are illegal and severe consequences could be in your future. RVs get some exceptions that commercial vehicles do not, road tax, mileage tracking, log books etc, be happy with that don't keep trying to take more advantages then your allowed, if your in an accident and there are personal injuries you will be liable and broke!!!! In short I think there will be more states requiring special licensing for RV's you will need to know, because they won't be notifying us with mailings or phone calls. If you notice, the first things listed are: Complete an application for a driver license (DL 44).
Pay the application fee. Submit a Health Questionnaire (DL 546) dated not more than two years prior to the date of your application. Pass the basic Class C law test, unless you renewed your Class C license within the past 12 months. Pass the Recreational Vehicles and Noncommercial Class A Trailers law test.
Pass a vision test. Pass a pre-trip inspection test. Pass the skills test. Pass a driving test while towing the type of vehicle you wish to be licensed for. We are VISITORS to California, not residents.
These rules Only Apply to residents. Scotty, Ca also has the 26,001 GCWR rule also, anything over is a class B or higher. The commercial license requirements seem to be pretty much consistant between states.
The recent attention to the RV license requirements is where it gets kinda tricky. I know that none of our deputies know about the requirements (I did an impromptu pole in briefing this morning) and in my experience, with the exception of the commercial units, most CHP Officers don't hassel (or maybe don't know) any of the RV drivers UNLESS they get into an accident. Then it is by the book, especially if a death occurs. I have heard there is a push to create grants for special enforcement of RV laws which usually mean checkpoints at the scales or select areas on non-freeway highways. They do this quite often with the IRS and stop all vehicles that run on diesel to make sure they are not using farm fuel. Either way, I need to be legal in California so I will jump through the hoops. Here is a good one for you.
I'm sure most or all of you have seen places that have buggy rides/carriage rides at certain times of the year. We have an area in Kansas City, MO that does this during the Thanksgiving-Christmas time frame. The people driving them (keep in mind these are horse powered), by law must have a valid CDL to drive them! I am sure they have a type of chauffers license but they are taking payment for a service so I could possibly see that. I have to have a chauffers license to drive a church van in Louisiana. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk.
Bottom line is.no matter what someone knows, or thinks they know about their state, another state, or the US laws in general, the best bet is to go to someone that definitely knows the law in a particular state. Contact the individual state's licensing department, or Highway Patrol. In 30 years of law enforcement I've seen a lot of people get into trouble because they went by the 'expert advice' of a buddy or someone who 'knows the laws'. We used to call them 'jail house lawyers'. Seemed like the 'good advice' was wrong 90% of the time. I'm sure ALL the California RV dealers are informing their buyers of this requirement before they will take their money, hitch 'em up, and wave goodby. I brought this up at a local Escapees RVers meeting of about 100 members, with about 50 being 5th wheel owners.
No one had this license. Now all of us not having this license need someone with this license to drive us to the testing site - But there is no one! So you risk impoundment of your rig for going to get the legal license. If you mess up on the pre-trip checkout, or the driving test, you again get to go home without your $70,000 rig. I have contacted RV driving schools, truck driving schools, and RV movers in the area about getting me to the test. They all refused.
Can you say Catch 22??? If DMV/CHP really want to get us into compliance, there needs to be an amnesty (politically charged word in this state), or temporary license allowing the current RVers to get to the test by themselves. The only posting I have heard of on this forum of anyone getting cited for this in California was when they were cited for something else - Towing at 65 MPH instead of the state towing maximum of 55 MPH (which I observe in ALL states I drive in). I am about to get out of my house and live fulltime in my Bighorn. I will probably stay mostly in California at Thousand Trails parks.
But if California goes into hard-XXX enforcement of this very hard to comply with regulation, I will sign up with one of the Florida or Texas mail forwarding services (instead of a California one) and re-register my drivers license and vehicles in one of those states; without California's state income tax, and extremely high vehicle registration fees (or smog checks on diesel pickups - what a joke- there is no electronic testing system for this). California's reciprocal law is pretty simple. A resident from ANY state can operate ANY vehicle in CA as long as they have the proper license with appropriate endorsement for the vehicle they are driving from the State where the license was issued (residence). If your state says you are legally licensed to drive and tow the vehicle you are driving and towing, then you are also legal in CA.
The bigger issue, and someone else mentioned it, is that, without the proper license and endorsements, you are driving OUT OF CLASS and might as well have no license at all. No matter what State you are from, and you find yourself in a position to defend yourself (accident?) you may find yourself very likely liable for illegally driving your rig. Bottom line, get the proper license and quit worrying about whether law enforcement will give you a ticket. Be legal and you'll have no worries.anywhere. I started checking into Texas laws regarding a fifth wheel (//heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/38432-Class-of-Drivers-License-Required-in-the-state-of-Texas?highlight=) when I learned that I had to change my insurance class with my new bed. It was amazing how much wrong information I received.Worst came from two local RV Dealerships that said 'there is not a Heartland product that would require you to have a Class A Non Commercial license'.Very wrong!
My concern on both the proper insurance and license was in case of an accident. The local DPS office told me that when an accident occurs it's amazing how much comes out.Not the time to learn, IMO! When we bought our Mobile Suites I also bought a Volvo 770 as a tow vehicle. I called our state office in Tallahassee to get advice on how to register it as a non-commercial vehicle used solely for non-commercial travel.
I was told by a supervisor, 'Once a commercial vehicle, always a commercial vehicle.' If I had taken her at her word I wouldn't have discovered actual Florida guidance. Her advice was the exact opposite of fact. It was very easy to get my Volvo legally registered as a motorhome in FL once I found the applicable regulation. Bottom line, calling the state experts won't necessarily yield correct guidance.
When we bought our Mobile Suites I also bought a Volvo 770 as a tow vehicle. I called our state office in Tallahassee to get advice on how to register it as a non-commercial vehicle used solely for non-commercial travel. I was told by a supervisor, 'Once a commercial vehicle, always a commercial vehicle.' If I had taken her at her word I wouldn't have discovered actual Florida guidance. Her advice was the exact opposite of fact. It was very easy to get my Volvo legally registered as a motorhome in FL once I found the applicable regulation.
Bottom line, calling the state experts won't necessarily yield correct guidance. I ran into the same issue at one of the Austin DMV's (DPS). It took going up the chain of command and a phone call to the DPS Headquarters in Austin, to get a definitive answer and directions as to which units to study for the test. I took my driving test in Marble Falls, which is closer and much easier than towing to Central Austin. The person was not really a DPS trooper, just a licensing agent.
I drove myself to the test and parked the rig on the side street without incident. I started checking into Texas laws regarding a fifth wheel (//heartlandowners.org/showthread.php/38432-Class-of-Drivers-License-Required-in-the-state-of-Texas?highlight=) when I learned that I had to change my insurance class with my new bed. It was amazing how much wrong information I received.Worst came from two local RV Dealerships that said 'there is not a Heartland product that would require you to have a Class A Non Commercial license'.Very wrong!
My concern on both the proper insurance and license was in case of an accident. The local DPS office told me that when an accident occurs it's amazing how much comes out.Not the time to learn, IMO! I agree that is not the time to find out. So if you gotta get a class A in Texas, do they test you in your own rig?
It looks like I am right on the wire so I think I'll just go ahead and do it. My son is an OTR trucker, but right now he is staying with us and hauling crude oil to take advantage of the local boom, so I wouldn't have any problem getting the rig to the test station.
As I understand it, insurance companies now consider trucks with a tow bed on them to be 'commercial'. What is confusing about the Texas law is that if you're towing a rig with combined weight below 26,000 pounds the non-commercial license is not needed.
Then there is another section of the licensing law that say specifically that if you are towing an RV for private use, the CDL license is not needed. In my years of law enforcement, I don't know of anyone that was ever stopped or cited for not being licensed properly. As far as I know, these laws have not changed in the last few years so this is not something that is new. You do test with your own rig to get the Texas Class A.
I agree that Law Enforcement Officers are not stopping vehicles to check for proper operators classification. My Ram and BC combination fall below the 26,000 lb. Threshold.If I had a another model of BC, some BH and any Landmark.I would be over the 26,000 lbs and be required to have the Class A, Non-Commercial license.
It is not that big an issue to follow the law and have the proper classification. I plan on getting my Class A due to a low boy equipment trailer that I do have to tow at times. Yes.Insurance companies consider 'hauler bed' pickup trucks to be Commercial.I searched, protested, begged and still ended up with a Commercial policy!:( just more $$$. Well, as it turns out, I won't need to go get a class A, in fact in Texas, I can't. I went out to DPS to get the manual and was told that for the driving test, the rig I tested with had to exceed the 26,000 pounds.
If it does not they will not test you. They do NOT go by what is printed on the door or trailer. They will only accept the Gross Weight specified on the vehicle/trailer registration (presumably taken from the certificate of origin). I my case that gives me a two thousand pound margin. She said a lot of times there is a difference between the door label and the registration and the registration is trump.
I could still get the class A, but would have to use an alternate setup that exceeded the 26,000 pounds. Once again, it depends on the person you talk to or who's doing the testing. I took my driving test and the agent never looked at my rig or asked any questions about the truck's or the Cyclone's GVWR. He jumped in, I drove him around a few blocks and we were done. Maybe he just assumed because of it's size that it was over the limit. Yeah,that is probably true.
The way they do it here, is you have to go inside with your paperwork, etc. And they schedule the test and then all the actual tester does is run the test as everything has already been checked out (e.g., weight thing, class A permit, etc.). Well I took the class A Noncommercial tests today and passed with flying colors.
The test consisted of a very detailed pre-trip inspection of the tow vehicle and the 5th wheel. Got dinged for not saying I would inspect the front windshield to see if it was broken (even though I said I would look at all the glass on the truck and trailer), and I didn't check to make sure there wasn't a gap in between the hitch and trailer (how do you get a gap when there is almost 3000 lbs pressure?). I aced the straightline backing but took 2 extra pullups on the alley docking. I normally stab it first try with no problem. I messed myself up because that give you about 6 lanes width instead of the normal 1 or 2 lanes that I am used to.
I decided to make a real wide arc and that threw me off. You get 2 free pull ups and I thought you fail after that so after the first pull up I started overthinking it. After the second pullup I thought I was done but she kept waving me on. After I parked it, she told me I had 6 tries to do it.
Only lost a few points. Then we drove all around West Sacramento.
No problem there, 100%. So I get my license and it says Class A/M1 and the only restriction is 71 'Class A restricted to towing single trailer coaches only, not for compensation - not valid for Class B vehicles'. I expected it to show the Autotrans restriction and say something about being noncommercial. Until 2011 I had a Class B, to drive the jail transport bus (basically a tour bus) and it had the auto trans restriction (64). I had a question about how big of a tow vehicle I could drive.
At the commercial testing facility they told me that I could drive anything as long as the GVWR of the tow vehicle was less than 26001 lbs and I was not for hire. So I call my CHP commercial buddy and he says that as long as I add the airbrake endorsement, I could drive a class 7 or 8 to tow my 5th wheel. He also said that unless the license restricts me to an auto trans, I can drive a manual.
Now I am seriously considering looking for a good used tractor to pull my trailer. Just browsing for a few minutes, I see clean trucks, some with sleepers and some set up for 5th wheels available for high teens to $40,000.
Currently I am close to the max with my F350 and if I max the trailer with fuel and water, motorcycle and the family, I am over the limit. A new dually pickup would run upwards of $50,000. Has anyone else considered this option? Mike, all you would really have to do is register your rig at 26001 and then you qualify. With that said I really don't think you want to pay the extra money to do so. Biggest problem I have with getting a CDL when a non-CDL is not available is the fact you sign away many rights as part of the CDL licensing. I was talked out going that route for a amateur sports car hauler because getting a CDL and larger rig (26001) means you can be stopped without probable cause, drug tested and searched.
Didn't want all that hassle so stayed below 26000 and didn't haul dangerous materials. I am not really interested in getting the CDL unless I have to. I watched the process my son had to go through to get his class A CDL with tanker and HazMat endorsements and it was pretty extensive. Here in TX (and probably other places too) you have to have a background check, fingerprints, etc. To get the HazMat after you pass the test and best of all, you have to pay for it.
No thanks, Mike These days, the background check is 60 days minimum. We have to put our fuel and lube truck drivers through it for the hazmat. There's no reason to have a CDL unless you need it.
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Too many requirements, physicals, and stipulations that go with it. I got my CDL at age 20 and kept it for 20 years, until they changed the rules. Since I no longer drove trucks, it was not worth the hassle or expense to keep it. In Jersey, I drive a 70,000 pound, 43' truck with air brakes for a career, with a basic passenger car license with no endorsements.:cool: Per the commercial drivers license manual for New Jersey you need a Class B.
I believe the A and B standards are federal regulations. CLASS B: If you drive. Any vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 or more pounds; or,. A vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 or more pounds towing a trailer with a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 or less pounds; or,.
A bus with GVWR of 26,001 pounds or more designed to transport 16 or more passengers; including the driver.you need to have a Class B license. You also qualify to operate vehicles in Class C, provided you have the proper extra endorsements.
Texas, cause someone asked about it. Plus that, it got me to thinking about it.so here it goes Texas Class C is described in Sec. 521.083 and it very simply says that if it ain't specifically listed in Sec 521.081, Sec 521.082 or 521.083 you can drive it with a class C.
And Texas reciprocates with other states meaning your DL is good here. SUBCHAPTER D. CLASSIFICATION OF DRIVER'S LICENSESSec. CLASS A LICENSE.
A Class A driver's license authorizes the holder of the license to operate: (1) a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more; or(2) a combination of vehicles that has a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of any vehicle or vehicles in tow is more than 10,000 pounds. Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. CLASS B LICENSE.
I can see why it is so difficult to be a commercial enforcement officer, probably in any state. The Feds set a minimum standards for CDL requirements but each state can be more restrictive (like CA, unfortunately where I live).
I wonder what other states have restrictions like CA. Here is what the US DOT requirements are.
I see nothing about 5th wheel or travel trailer weight limits other than the fross combined weight of 26001 lbs. Classes of License: The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications: Class A - Any combination of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds. Class B - Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR. Class C - Any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is transporting material that has been designated as hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and is required to be placarded under subpart F of 49 CFR Part 172 or is transporting any quantity of a material listed as a select agent or toxin in 42 CFR Part 73.
Endorsements and Restrictions: Endorsements: Drivers who operate special types of CMVs must pass additional tests to obtain any of the following endorsements placed on their CDL: T - Double/Triple Trailers (Knowledge test only) P - Passenger (Knowledge and Skills Tests) N - Tank vehicle (Knowledge test only) H - Hazardous materials (Knowledge test only) X - Combination of tank vehicle and hazardous materials endorsements S - School Bus (Knowledge and Skills Tests) States may have additional codes for additional grouping of endorsements, as long as such codes are fully explained on the license. Restrictions: 'L' On a full air brake vehicle, if a driver fails either the air brake component of the general knowledge test, or performs the skills test in a vehicle not equipped with air brakes, then the driver will have an 'L' air brake restriction placed on their license.
'Z' If the driver takes the test in a vehicle with an air over hydraulic brake system, then they will have a 'Z' no full air brake restriction placed on their license. In either case the driver is not authorized to operate a CMV equipped with air brakes. 'E' If the driver takes the Skills Test in a vehicle that has an automatic transmission, then an 'E' no manual transmission restriction is placed on their license. 'O' If the driver takes the Skills Test in a Class A vehicle that has a pintle hook or other non-fifth wheel connection, they will have an 'O' restriction placed on their license restricting them from driving any Class A vehicle with a fifth wheel connection. 'M' If a driver possesses a Class A CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class B vehicle the State must place an 'M' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class B and C passenger vehicle or school buses. 'N' If a driver possesses a Class B CDL, but obtains his or her passenger or school bus endorsement in a Class C vehicle; the State must place an 'N' restriction indicating that the driver can only operate Class C passenger vehicle or school buses. I agree that it is VERY confusing.
My Cyclone has a GVWR or 15,500, which puts me 500 pounds into Class A. I know many (if not all) of my friends with larger trailers are driving with Class C. Granted many of them have some sort of badge that might get them out of a little trouble.;-) I decided I would get mine, just in case I was ever involved in an accident. You can bet the lawyers would jump all over an out of Class, unlicensed driver, regardless of actual fault. I have already taken my test and got my 'learners permit'.
The big problem now is that I still must have a Class A licensed driver with me. So, my dilema is if I were to get pulled over, do I play stupid and give my Class C, or do I say I am trying to be legal and give my Class A permit? I would recommend anyone who falls into the category just get the license required.
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It really is not that difficult to pass the written test. I have yet to take the behind the wheel, so I can't comment on that. I just think it is better to protect yourself. We all have insurance, right???? Isn't the key word here 'Commercial' and unless you are being paid to transport these rv's you should be ok?
That is my feelings. I have yet to see a DPS (Louisiana equivalent to commercial enforcement) pull an RV over not have I heard any of my RV friends who have had unfortunate experience with an accident with there rig having any issues with not having a specific license requirement. I do have a class d license due to fact that I did run a hotshot for a little while. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. This thread has made me be glad to be licesned in Nebraska.
Where RVs are exempt from all of that. Same with South Dakota. We are trying to decide where to retire when the hubby gets out of the service.
It has been between South Dakota and Texas. They are pretty equally matched but South Dakota is winning. Mizmary, if you do happen to decide on Texas, I would recommend going to Livingston, TX, home of Escapees RV club. They are very familiar with, and very friendly towards RV'rs. I had to get the class A license and the only glitch is that you must schedule a driving test but can only do so after passing the written test.
The wait was 2 weeks there, I have heard of months in other parts of Texas, so it can't be done in one short visit but the over all experience was not unpleasant at all. When I moved from Illinois to Connecticut, I had to surrender my Class A non-CDL license for a Class D license. Many states like Connecticut do not require or follow the Federal guidelines, but the reciprocal laws allow one to to drive legally in the US and Canada. I was somewhat surprised at how some states require a class A to pull my rig and some state do not.
However, I am glad that I had the class A, because I have a better understanding of driving safety for my rig. I highly recommend one to take a course in class a CDL if their state does not require the class A license. That knowledge would be helpful for safety and if one is sued in case of an accident. In my case Connecticut is the problem not me:-). Mizmary, if you do happen to decide on Texas, I would recommend going to Livingston, TX, home of Escapees RV club.
They are very familiar with, and very friendly towards RV'rs. I had to get the class A license and the only glitch is that you must schedule a driving test but can only do so after passing the written test. The wait was 2 weeks there, I have heard of months in other parts of Texas, so it can't be done in one short visit but the over all experience was not unpleasant at all.
I took my written test in Austin because one of the DMV's is close to my office. It's a typical 'take a number and wait'. When I called to make an appointment for the driving test, it was as you described, 2-3 weeks wait. I actually live about 20 min from Marble Falls. I called the DMV there and they said they could not make an appointmnet until the following week, but they take walk-ins if I could arrive at 8 AM. When I got there there was one appointment ahead of me, but they said they could do it at 9:30.
Having an hour to burn, I went to the famous Bluebonnet Cafe, and had some world class biscuits and gravy with some grits. I was done and driving home with a Class A by 10:30. I will never go to the Austin DMV again, for anything, plus it saved me from having to haul the rig into central Austin.
Wasn't much picked up on my comment here. In Jersey, I drive a 70,000 pound, 43' truck with air brakes for a career, with a basic passenger car license with no endorsements.:cool: Taking this thought and adding to mine and you can see a bit of a pattern. I echo Dave10's comment that it is good to have the knowledge. I think that is the whole point of the process. I have seen so many rigs driving recklessly and have been to my share of rv accidents while working which were caused by drivers driving like they were in their cars. I am a fire fighter, and because of that in New Jersey, I am exempt from having to deal with any commrcial license requirements even though I am a certified operator of our 67,000+ and 74,000+ 3 axle, air brake equipped, top heavy aerial trucks.
Education, or lack of it especially when it comes to air brakes and big trucks can 'wreck' havoc. Rough estimate is about 1/3 of the fire fighter fatalities each year (30-40) involve motor vehicle accidents, and almost all of those involve rollovers. Speaking of wrecking havoc. Take a look at this video of an incident in Indiana a couple days ago. Mind the language if you have sensitive ears nearby, the language is about what you would expect witnessing this type of incident. Minor injuries.
In certain cases, a number of restrictions may be placed onto your drivers license. Restrictions may limit your driving privileges to operating a certain type of motor vehicles or driving only under specific conditions. Restriction codes vary between states and you can always check the codes specific to your state by contacting the Department of Motor Vehicles in your states. Don't confuse these restrictions with the regular permit and license restrictions that apply to your permit or license under the.
Restrictions Codes List In order to provide you with an example of what the drivers license restriction codes may be like, here is a list of restrictions that work in Wyoming. Drivers license restriction may be different in your state, please make sure to check your state-specific restrictions:. B restriction.
Requires corrective lenses to be worn while operating a motor vehicle. C restriction. A license holder may ONLY operate a motor vehicle specially equipped with certain mechanical aids. Special equipment may include special brakes, hand controls and/or other adaptive devices. D restriction. Requires the license holder to wear an artificial limb while operating a motor vehicle. E restriction.
Allows ONLY the operation of a motor vehicle with an automatic transmission. F restriction.
Allows ONLY the operation of a motor vehicle equipped with both left and right outside rear view mirrors. G restriction. Restricts driving to daylight hours. No driving after sunset is permitted.
I restriction. Allows for restrictions not covered by other more specific restriction codes. It may involve a restriction, for instance, on mileage, speed, or alcohol or drug use following a doctor’s medical regimen.
J restriction. Makes a driver license issued without a photo valid. K restriction. Limits a commercial driver to operating a commercial vehicle intrastate only (within the borders of a state.). R restriction. Means the license holder may ONLY operate a “motorcycle” vehicle equipped with four wheels and only for recreation.
Y restriction. Means the license holder must submit a Driver Vision Evaluation form, completed by an eye specialist, every year. Z restriction. Means the license holder must submit a Driver Medical Evaluation form, completed by a physician or medical specialist, every year. One or more drivers license restrictions may be placed onto your. You can always check the restriction codes in the official or by calling your nearest DMV office. Provisional Drivers License Restrictions Provisional drivers license restrictions are somewhat different from the restriction codes that are provided above.
Provisional drivers license restrictions mandate that teen drivers go through a number of stages when applying for a drivers license as opposed to being granted full driving privileges right away. In most cases, an applicant would start by taking a and receiving a. This permit must be held for a certain period of time and a number of apply during this stage.
Once this requirement is met, an applicant may take a and receive a provisional drivers license. Unlike a permit, a provisional drivers license allows unsupervised driving, but still holds a number of restrictions that limit the drivers ability to operate a vehicle. The most common provisional drivers license restrictions are as following:.
Curfew. A drivers is not allowed to operate a vehicle during certain hours. Passenger restrictions.
A provisional license holder may only carry a limited number of passengers. Sometimes the age of passengers is also limited by law. Seat belts restrictions.
In most states, everyone in the vehicle operated by a provisional license holder must wear a seat belt. Cell phones.
By now, cell phone usage while driving is banned in most states. Failure to observe provisional license restrictions may incur a number of penalties on top of a regular fine. In some cases, the driving privilege is suspended for a short period of time, on others it is withdrawn altogether.
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Sears wrote in message news:[email protected]. If anybody can tell me what License Restriction #59 is on the California driver license, please let me know. It is VITAL that I know this.
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Where did you get the restriction? How old is your license? Do you have a commercial license?? I'll look it up when I get a chance. Bobby Teichmann wrote: If anybody can tell me what License Restriction #59 is on the California driver license, please let me know.
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